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Post by mkarns on Aug 31, 2014 21:54:39 GMT -5
HMM, tied into this week's '70 #1, I presume..... In a sense you're right, as in a topical recording expressing the exact opposite point of view. |
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Post by at40petebattistini on Sept 1, 2014 6:33:35 GMT -5
Trivia question time... The answer doesn't fit the thread topic but it's pretty close. During the AT40 "classic" years, what record debuted at #41 on the Hot 100 and climbed no higher than #37? Battle Hymn Of Lt. Calley - C COMPANY featuring Terry NELSON You are correct! |
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Post by artsmusic on Sept 1, 2014 12:20:27 GMT -5
Noticed that when this debuted on the Hot 100, it already had the RIAA gold sign next to the title. Does anyone else remember such a situation? I know that in reality there are probably other titles which did sell 1M the first week (We Are The World?), but I can't recall the RIAA symbol being present.
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Post by jmack19 on Sept 3, 2014 15:55:33 GMT -5
I think Casey Kasem mentioned on AT40 - 12/20/75 that Donna Summer's first top 40 song was already a gold single when it debuted @ #27.
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Post by matt on Sept 3, 2014 16:00:39 GMT -5
Battle Hymn Of Lt. Calley - C COMPANY featuring Terry NELSON You are correct! Wow--how'd that happen? A song debuts that high and only climbs another four notches? |
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Post by mkarns on Sept 3, 2014 16:58:35 GMT -5
Wow--how'd that happen? A song debuts that high and only climbs another four notches? I think everyone who wanted to buy it to make a political point quickly did so. Everyone else realized what a piece of crap it was. |
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Post by mga707 on Sept 3, 2014 18:44:13 GMT -5
Wow--how'd that happen? A song debuts that high and only climbs another four notches? I think everyone who wanted to buy it to make a political point quickly did so. Everyone else realized what a piece of crap it was. A record whose chart performance was all sales and virtually no airplay. |
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Post by artsmusic on Sept 3, 2014 20:53:20 GMT -5
Jmack, my point was I've never seen a song with its HOT 100 debut week have the RIAA symbol that week. I'm sure there's instances of top 40 debuts with RIAA symbols.
I also recall seeing songs like Swingin' by John Anderson and Juicy Fruit by Mtume have their RIAA symbols WITHOUT ever hitting the top 40.
If anyone recalls or has actual charts (mine only go back to 1980) that show another debut besides Calley, I'd love to hear about it.
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Post by chrisinmi on Sept 3, 2014 21:58:26 GMT -5
^And in 1998, "Ray of Light" debuted at #5 and got no higher. Yes, but that #5 debut was on the overall Hot 100, and thus wasn't recognized by Casey, whereas the #2 debut of "Erotica" on the Hot 100 Airplay chart was recognized by Shadoe because that was the chart used for AT40 at that time. On AT40 in 1998 (based on the R&R charts), "Ray Of Light" debuted in the Top 40 at #30, but had jumped into the 40 from #46 the week before, and ended up peaking at #10. IIRC, the retail single was released as the track's airplay was already starting to decline, meaning it might have had a chance for a #1 debut had it been released maybe two or three weeks earlier (I doubt it though). Two examples from the Casey's Top 40 era of songs that debuted in the top 20 and failed to hit the top: "Old Man & Me" by Hootie & The Blowfish - debuted at 19, peaked at 5 "Endless Love" by Luther Vandross & Mariah Carey - debuted at 18, peaked at 6 There are also a number of other examples I can think of of records that debuted in the top 30 and failed to hit the top. |
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Post by mstgator on Sept 4, 2014 21:22:56 GMT -5
^And in 1998, "Ray of Light" debuted at #5 and got no higher. Two examples from the Casey's Top 40 era of songs that debuted in the top 20 and failed to hit the top: "Old Man & Me" by Hootie & The Blowfish - debuted at 19, peaked at 5 "Endless Love" by Luther Vandross & Mariah Carey - debuted at 18, peaked at 6 And the song that I believe holds the record for the highest debut ever on the R&R pop chart: "If You Go" by Jon Secada, which debuted at #15 and took ten weeks to slowly climb to its peak of #5. |
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Post by jebsib on Sept 5, 2014 16:37:23 GMT -5
"Expression" by Salt-n-Pepa entered the Hot 100 on 3/10/90 with a Gold RIAA symbol.
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Post by matt on Sept 12, 2014 9:45:02 GMT -5
I have the 1991 edition of the same book and he makes the same comment in it. It is all about timing. And this week's 80s show is a good example. If Medley is released a couple weeks earlier and reaches #2 a couple weeks earlier, it probably gets stiffed by Bette Davis Eyes because BDE was a lot stronger in its first few weeks at #1. Same thing for The One That You Love. If it is released earlier, it probably gets stiffed as All those Years Ago was. This is why I think AT40 should have played #2 songs from the archives in conjunction with the #1 songs because most of them would have hit the top if they had been released earlier or later. Interesting stuff here. This week's 70s show on Premiere (6/17/78) provides another good example. Andy Gibb's "Shadow Dancing" reached #1 that week, while Gerry Rafferty's "Baker Street" moved to #3. If "Baker Street" had been released a couple of weeks earlier (or "Shadow Dancing" a couple of weeks later), it probably would have reached #1. And similarly, if "Shadow Dancing" had been released earlier, the John Travolta/Olivia Newton-John duet, "You're the One that I Want," (#2 that week) might never had reached the top. "Baker Street" is certainly a great example of unfortunate timing, as was "Waiting For a Girl Like You" and "Dancing In the Dark". I can't help but think that any one of those songs would have hit #1 if released at the right time. Toto's "Rosanna" might also fit into that category... |
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