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Post by jgve1952 on Feb 10, 2011 2:40:34 GMT -5
Just curious for the Casey AT40 period (up until 1988), does anyone know what the largest drop on the Billboard charts from positions 2, 3, 4 and 5 were. I know Even the Nights are Better dropped from 6 to 42 in 1982, Steppin' Out by Tony Orlando and Dawn dropped from 7 to 48 in 1974, and of course twice songs dropped from 1 to 15 also in 1974, but just again, would like to know about positions 2 thru 5, if anyone would be kind enough to tell me. Thanks!
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Post by matt on Feb 10, 2011 11:13:01 GMT -5
Very interesting question (and don't you wish you could still send a letter to Casey for this stuff?). Probably the best way to find out would be to sift through the Hot 100's--Google books has a number of them posted, but it sounds like you can buy them either in hardcopy or DVD-ROM on Joel Whitburn's site.
I am always fascinated by chart movements like that--like what causes a song to make it all the way into the Top 10 or even Top 5 and then take a massive plunge in a week?
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Post by freakyflybry on Feb 10, 2011 11:18:40 GMT -5
I seem to recall Marvin Gaye's "Sexual Healing" and Olivia Newton-John's "Heart Attack" taking big plunges out of the top 5, not sure if either has the record though.
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Post by mkarns on Feb 10, 2011 11:29:46 GMT -5
It may not be a record, but the Isley Brothers' "Fight the Power" fell from #4 to #24 on October 4, 1975, and then right out of the top 40. Since the 10/4/75 AT40 was a special countdown (Top Rock'n'Roll Acts of the 50s), the last position Casey played it at was its #4 peak.
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 10, 2011 11:41:24 GMT -5
During the Casey era, 1970-1988, the biggest drop from #2 is Float On by the Floaters. It dropped to #19 in 1977. The biggest drop from #3 is Sexual Healing by Marvin Gaye. It dropped to #23 in 1983.
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Post by Mike on Feb 10, 2011 12:11:28 GMT -5
During the Casey era, 1970-1988, the biggest drop from #2 is Float On by the Floaters. It dropped to #19 in 1977. The biggest drop from #3 is Sexual Healing by Marvin Gaye. It dropped to #23 in 1983. I think that was February 19, in otherwords only two weeks after the show that just aired. (If I remember the records correctly, I think the 2/19 show aired in 2008.) While not a record, "Maneater" also fell from 6 to 25 that same week, and "Rock the Casbah" fell from 8 to 31. The following week, "Africa" fell from 5 to 19. There is a bigger drop from #5, though - "(There's) No Gettin' Over Me" fell from #5 to something like #24 in October 1981 (I forget the date). I think it then spent one more week in the 40 before falling out. It may not be a record, but the Isley Brothers' "Fight the Power" fell from #4 to #24 on October 4, 1975, and then right out of the top 40. Since the 10/4/75 AT40 was a special countdown (Top Rock'n'Roll Acts of the 50s), the last position Casey played it at was its #4 peak. Funny story! Asia's "Heat of the Moment" made that exact same plunge on 7/17/82, and then it too was out of the 40 the following week. Marc Elliott guest-hosted the 7/17/82 show...so we won't get to hear "Heat of the Moment" past its #4 peak, either!  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2011 12:13:55 GMT -5
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 10, 2011 13:48:12 GMT -5
Ok, those guesses for Fight the Power and (There's) No Gettin' Over Me were good guesses but they are not the biggest droppers. The biggest dropper from #4 is Beach Baby by First Class. It dropped to #26 in 1974. The biggest dropper from #5 is Some Kind of Wonderful by Grand Funk. It dropped to #30 in 1975. So the biggest drops from #1,4 and 5 all occurred in 4 month period in late '74 and early '75.
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Post by jgve1952 on Feb 10, 2011 17:19:07 GMT -5
Thanks posters! Even though not asked, but in a previous thread, songs in 1982 would drop out of the Top 40 from position 10 at least three I know of: Get Down on It early in the year, then later in the year Muscles and Love Is In Control (interesting all three dance/R&B songs).
But Wahoo, you are new to the site, and officially welcome it's so super to discuss our favs from the 70s and 80s, but you mentioned songs dropping quickly. Late last year we discussed songs that dropped completely out of the Hot 100--how about Nights in White Satin, a former number 2 song dropped for a few weeks then dropped from 17 all the way out of the Hot 100! I think that's the one that will always blow my mind! It used to be "back in the day", when a subsequent release from an artist would push its older song out. Examples of course are the Beatles and Supremes in the mid-60s.
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 10, 2011 18:28:13 GMT -5
I can add Sweet Home Alabama by Lynyrd Skynyrd to this list. It is the biggest dropper from #8, falling to #44. This occured the same week that Steppin' Out Gonna Boogie Tonight dropped from #7 to 48. That is 1 week after Then came You dropped from #1 to 15 which in turn is the week after Nothing From Nothing dropped from #1 to 15 and 1 week after Beach Baby dropped from #4 to 26. 5 singles in 4 consecutive weeks set or tied records for the biggest drops from its position.
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Post by donwa001 on Feb 10, 2011 19:59:27 GMT -5
Looking outside the AT 40 time period (so sorry this is straying from the original question), when I think of big droppers, I think of novelty records. Here is a drop from #5 that beats 'Some Kind of Wonderful'.
Here is the 6 week chart action for "They're Coming To Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa!" by Napoleon XIV.
Debuted at #50 on 7/23/66. Then followed this progression:
11
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5
37
So the song fell from #5 to #37, then off the HOT 100.
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Post by mkarns on Feb 10, 2011 20:31:05 GMT -5
I can add Sweet Home Alabama by Lynyrd Skynyrd to this list. It is the biggest dropper from #8, falling to #44. This occured the same week that Steppin' Out Gonna Boogie Tonight dropped from #7 to 48. That is 1 week after Then came You dropped from #1 to 15 which in turn is the week after Nothing From Nothing dropped from #1 to 15 and 1 week after Beach Baby dropped from #4 to 26. 5 singles in 4 consecutive weeks set or tied records for the biggest drops from its position. Also in November 1974, America's "Tin Man" plunged from #4 to #25, and Gordon Lightfoot's "Carefree Highway" from #10 to #42, thus right off AT40. (Speaking of America, I was amused to listen to the 2/1/75 countdown, played by SXM last week, and hear Casey say that they were "not known for lyrics that make any sense", with the exception of their then-current hit "Lonely People".) |
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Post by 80sfreak on Feb 10, 2011 20:47:31 GMT -5
Not the record but I recall Shame On The Moon from Seger falling from 2 to 13
Maneater had a huge drop too, but it took forever for that song to even fall to #6 on its way down. I think it was #6 for 3 or 4 weeks on the way down.
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Post by Shadoe Fan on Feb 11, 2011 8:30:23 GMT -5
During the Shadoe era, in September 1991, Roxette's "Fading Like a Flower" fell from #2 to #15. This was still the Hot 100.
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Post by pizzzzza on Feb 11, 2011 10:16:16 GMT -5
Looking outside the AT 40 time period (so sorry this is straying from the original question), when I think of big droppers, I think of novelty records. Here is a drop from #5 that beats 'Some Kind of Wonderful'. Here is the 6 week chart action for "They're Coming To Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa!" by Napoleon XIV. Debuted at #50 on 7/23/66. Then followed this progression: 11 5 3 5 37 So the song fell from #5 to #37, then off the HOT 100. Showing me age here - I remember that song quite well (unfortunately). I remember a lot of the radio stations wouldn't even play the song - and it was quite a different type of song for "back then". But I can see how everyone got very tired of listening to this song after a while - just listen to it a few times, then imagine it after a month or so of hearing it...  |
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