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Post by franky on Mar 7, 2012 18:36:15 GMT -5
^Yeah, agree with you BME. Sunset Grill is totally my favorite from him. One of my favorite songs from 1985!!!! I'll take Don Henley any day over Glenn Frey.
Great story btw of the Dead Head sticker on the Cadillac. I didn't know that was about the Grateful Dead. I heard the 3/2/85 show back when it originally aired when I was 9, but obviously don't remember the story.
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Post by mrjukebox on Mar 7, 2012 22:32:20 GMT -5
Here's my critique of the countdown from 3/12/77 which is airing this weekend on terrestrial radio: #40-"Tryin To Love Two"-William Bell-The only top forty hit for this native of Memphis,TN-Great song that never receives recurrent airplay. #39-"At Midnight (My Love Will Lift You Up)"-Rufus featuring Chaka Khan-One of their lesser known hits-Great song. #38-"Car Wash"-Rose Royce-Great song that was featured in the movie of the same name. #37-"Disco Lucy"-Wilton Place Street Band-This was the theme to one of TV's most beloved shows "I Love Lucy",which ran from 1951-1957-It turned out to be the only top forty hit for this Los Angeles group which was assembled by record producer Trevor Lawrence-"Disco Lucy" is an all-time dance floor classic-FYI:Lawrence returned to the top forty five years later as the writer of "I'm So Excited" by The Pointer Sisters. #36-"Gloria"-Enchantment-The first of two top forty hits for this Detroit based R&B group-Great song. #35-"Hotel California"-Eagles-Their biggest hit overall & a bonafide classic. #34-"Free"-Deniece Williams-The first top forty hit for this native of Gary,IN-Great song. #33-"Do Ya"-Electric Light Orchestra-The second release from their album "A New World Record"-Great song. #32-"Bite Your Lip (Get Up & Dance)"-Elton John-One of his lesser known hits-Great song. #31-"The First Cut Is The Deepest"-Rod Stewart-Great song which was also a hit for Sheryl Crow in 2004. #30-"Southern Nights"-Glen Campbell-His second #1 hit & a timeless classic. #29-"Right Time Of The Night"-Jennifer Warnes-The debut release from this native of Anaheim,CA & a bonafide classic. #28-"I Wish"-Stevie Wonder-A former #1 hit & one of his best songs. #27-"Here Come Those Tears Again"-Jackson Browne-From his album "The Pretender"-Great song which featured Bonnie Raitt on background vocals. #26-"Sam"-Olivia Newton-John-Great song which should've been a much bigger hit. #25-"Living Next Door To Alice"-Smokie-The only top forty hit for this British group that featured Chris Norman on lead vocals-Decent song-FYI:In 1979,Norman teamed up with singer Suzi Quatro for a top five hit called "Stumblin In". #24-"Crackerbox Palace"-George Harrison-The second release from his album "Thirty-Three & A Third"-Great song. #23-"Enjoy Yourself"-The Jacksons-Another all-time dance floor classic. #22-"Long Time"-Boston-The second release from their self-titled debut album-Great song that still receives airplay on stations that have a classic rock format. #21-"So Into You"-Atlanta Rhythm Section-A bonafide classic. #20-"I've Got Love On My Mind"-Natalie Cole-One of her best songs. #19-"Say You'll Stay Until Tomorrow"-Tom Jones-Great song that was also a hit on the country chart. #18-"Weekend In New England"-Barry Manilow-One of his best songs. #17-"Don't Give Up On Us"-David Soul-This Chicago native is primarily known as an actor-He appeared on "Here Come The Brides","Owen Marshall Counselor At Law" & the show that made him a household name "Starsky & Hutch" which ran from 1975-1979-What few people don't know is that Soul is a talented singer. He released what would be his only top forty hit which went straight to #1-A bonafide classic. #16-"Carry On,Wayward Son"-Kansas-The first top forty hit for this band that was based in Topeka-Another bonafide classic. #15-"Maybe I'm Amazed"-Wings-From the live album "Wings Over America"-A timeless classic. #14-"New Kid In Town"-Eagles-The initial release from the "Hotel California" album-Great song that featured Glenn Frey on lead vocals. #13-"The Things We Do For Love"-10CC-Great song. #12-"Boogie Child"-Bee Gees-Great song that never receives recurrent airplay. #11-"Don't Leave Me This Way"-Thelma Houston-The first of two top forty hits for this native of Leland,MS-Another all-time dance floor classic. #10-"Go Your Own Way"-Fleetwood Mac-The initial release from the "Rumours" album-Great song that featured Lindsay Buckingham on lead vocals. #9-"Rich Girl"-Daryl Hall & John Oates-Their first #1 hit & a bonafide classic. #8-"Year Of The Cat"-Al Stewart-The breakthrough smash for this native of Glasgow,Scotland & another timeless classic. #7-"Torn Between Two Lovers"-Mary Mc Gregor-A timeless classic that was written & produced by Peter Yarrow of Peter Paul & Mary fame. #6-"Dancing Queen"-Abba-Their biggest hit overall & another bonafide classic. #5-"Blinded By The Light"-Manfred Mann's Earth Band-Great song that was written by Bruce Springsteen. #4-"Night Moves"-Bob Seger-One of his best songs. #3-"I Like Dreamin"-Kenny Nolan-Another bonafide classic. #2-"Fly Like An Eagle"-Steve Miller Band-Great song that was also a hit for Seal in 1996. #1-"Evergreen"-Barbra Streisand-A timeless classic that was featured in the movie "A Star Is Born".
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Mar 8, 2012 5:32:37 GMT -5
I think we are using All Time Dance Floor Classic a little liberally. Disco Lucy would not qualify. I'd say only songs that still get played on dance floors would qualify.
I don't know of anyone who has played that song on a dancefloor since 1977!
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Post by Hervard on Mar 10, 2012 7:24:30 GMT -5
Listen, I don't have a problem with Hervard's critiques, but for the love of God, can you stop using the term "okies"? I think that word is a bunch of "crappies". So you say you DON'T have a problem with my critiques, yet you're saying for me to stop using the term okies. In other words, you DO have a problem with my critiques. I think you know what the solution is if you have a problem with my critiques (or the content of them, anyway). I've posted it here several times. Warning: I have used the word at least once on my critique of the 1988 show - for the first song featured.
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Post by Hervard on Mar 10, 2012 11:13:53 GMT -5
American Top 40: The 80s - March 10, 2012
This week’s presentation - March 12, 1988
Cool, my prediction was correct once again! Of course, it wasn’t too hard this week, as there were only a few years that they could work with (while staying as close to the date of this weekend as possible). And they tend to run shows from 1988 close together, since there are only seven months in which they can run that year. And, at long last, 1988 is gearing up to join “Club 20", as this is the 19th show from that year. There’s bound to be at least one more 1988 show sometime this year, probably even two. In any case, here’s my critique for this week’s show:
Droppers: HAZY SHADE OF WINTER - THE BANGLES (39) - Good song, but not quite their best. TWILIGHT WORLD - SWING OUT SISTER (34) - Great song! Too bad it fell out, but at least we did hear it last year. I WANNA BE YOUR MAN - ROGER (30) - No big loss, as I do not like that song.
40: PROVE YOUR LOVE – TAYLOR DAYNE (debut) - It’s okies, but one of my least favorites from her. I preferred “Tell It To My Heart” and especially “Love Will Lead You Back”. 39: NEED YOU TONIGHT - INXS (29) - Not a huge fan of this overplayed song. I prefer their other song on the countdown this week. 38: YOU DON’T KNOW – SCARLETT & BLACK (debut) - Good song. This reminded me of “Don’t Forget Me (When I’m Gone)” by Glass Tiger. 37: NEVER KNEW LOVE LIKE THIS – ALEXANDER O’NEAL FEATURING CHERRELLE (40) - Great song! My favorite of their two duets. I wonder if we’ll hear their other one “Saturday Nite”, which charted in 1986, later on this year. 36: I SAW HIM STANDING THERE - TIFFANY (debut) - Good song. My favorite of her two remakes. 35: DON’T SHED A TEAR – PAUL CARRACK (18) - Good song. Not sure if I prefer this or his next solo hit “One Good Reason”. 34: PUSH-IT – SALT-N-PEPA (25) - Good song. This was when rap was still somewhat good. 33: COULD’VE BEEN - TIFFANY (21) - Great song! One of her best, as well as one of my favorite songs of 1988. 32: ROCK OF LIFE – RICK SPRINGFIELD (37) - This was OK, but I preferred his earlier hits. His comeback sure didn’t last long, did it? 31: BECAUSE OF YOU – THE COVER GIRLS (27) - Great song! One of their best songs ever! 30: ANGEL - AEROSMITH (36) - Great song! OPTIONAL EXTRA: GOIN’ BACK TO CALI - LL COOL J - Great song! Kind of interesting choice for an extra, since this didn’t even hit the Top 30 and doesn’t receive much in the way of recurrent airplay. 29: SAY YOU WILL - FOREIGNER (15) - It’s okies, but not my favorite song by them by any means. 28: WHERE DO BROKEN HEARTS GO – WHITNEY HOUSTON (38) - Great song! Like song #33, this was also one of my favorite songs of 1988. 27: WISHING WELL – TERENCE TRENT D’ARBY (35) - Good song, but I preferred “Sign Your Name”. 26: SEASONS CHANGE - EXPOSE (14) - Great song! My second favorite of their 1987/88 hits, behind “Point Of No Return”. 25: WHEN WE WAS FAB – GEORGE HARRISON (31) - Great song! I like this better than the overplayed “Got My Mind Set On You”. 24: CHECK IT OUT – JOHN COUGAR MELLENCAMP (32) - Great song! My favorite release from “The Lonesome Jubilee”. 23: SOME KIND OF LOVER – JODY WATLEY (33) - Good song but seriously - what’s the difference between this and “Don’t You Want Me”? 22: DEVIL INSIDE - INXS (28) - Good song. Nowhere near as overplayed as “Need You Tonight”. 21: PUMP UP THE VOLUME – M/A/R/R/S (13) - Good song, though kind of weird. 20: HUNGRY EYES – ERIC CARMEN (11) - Meh, not a fan of this one, due to overplay. I preferred his other 1988 hit “Make Me Lose Control”. OPTIONAL EXTRA: PAMELA - TOTO - Good song, though not quite their best. Toto had clearly had their day in the sun earlier in the decade. This was their last Top 40 hit. 19: GIRLFRIEND - PEBBLES (26) - Good song - not sure if I prefer this or “Mercedes Boy”. 18: WHAT HAVE I DONE TO DESERVE THIS – PET SHOP BOYS WITH DUSTY SPRINGFIELD (5) - Wasn’t a fan of this one - possibly my least favorite of their Top 40 hits. I preferred the song that shut this out of #1. 17: (SITTIN’ ON) THE DOCK OF THE BAY – MICHAEL BOLTON (23) - Great song! I slightly preferred this over the original (which was also a great song). Neil Schon, of Journey, played guitar in this song, which explains why the guitar solo sounds so much like that of several Journey songs (i.e. “I’ll Be Alright Without You”). 16: ROCKET 2 U – THE JETS (24) - Good song, though I generally preferred their slow songs. 15: BE STILL MY BEATING HEART - STING (19) - Good song, but I prefer several of his other songs, with or without the Police. 14: HYSTERIA – DEF LEPPARD (20) - Good song. This song always reminded me of “State Of The Heart” by Rick Springfield. 13: LOVE OVERBOARD – GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS (17) - Great song. One of the most random comebacks of the 1980s (although I wonder if her participation in “That’s What Friends Are For” may have had anything to do with it). Weird that this song was moving up without a bullet. Must have been a soft spot in the chart. 12: GET OUTTA MY DREAMS, GET INTO MY CAR – BILLY OCEAN (22) - Good song - I always thought this sounded a lot like “When The Going Gets Tough”. 11: I FOUND SOMEONE - CHER (10) - This was OK, but I preferred the singles from the Heart Of Stone album. 10: CAN’T STAY AWAY FROM YOU – GLORIA ESTEFAN AND MIAMI SOUND MACHINE (6) - Good song, though I prefer other songs by her/them (such as “Betcha Say That”, which hit the Top 40 the previous fall). OPTIONAL EXTRA: ONE STEP UP - BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN - Great song! This sounds like something that Gordon Lightfoot would do. 9: I WANT HER – KEITH SWEAT (16) - Good song, though I preferred “I’ll Give All My Love To You”, from 1991. 8: OUT OF THE BLUE – DEBBIE GIBSON (12) - Great song, though I preferred “Foolish Beat”. Still, this is better than “Shake Your Love”... 7: MAN IN THE MIRROR – MICHAEL JACKSON (9) - Good song. This was the only release from “Bad” that did not have a fast-rise, fast-fall chart run. 6: JUST LIKE PARADISE – DAVID LEE ROTH (7) - Good song. Not sure if I prefer this or “California Girls”, which we heard last week. 5: ENDLESS SUMMER NIGHTS – RICHARD MARX (8) - Good song, though I preferred the other songs from Richard’s debut album. 4: I GET WEAK – BELINDA CARLISLE (4) - Great song! One of my favorites by her, with or without the Go-Go’s. LDD: SOMEWHERE OUT THERE – LINDA RONSTADT & JAMES INGRAM - Great song! Very fitting for the dedication as well; I knew pretty much right off that this would be the song that the author requested. 3: SHE’S LIKE THE WIND – PATRICK SWAYZE FEATURING WENDY FRASER (3) - Great song. Don’t even get me started on the awful remake by Lumidee... 2: FATHER FIGURE – GEORGE MICHAEL (1) - I didn’t like this song during its chart run, but now I think it’s pretty good. 1: NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP – RICK ASTLEY (2) - Ah, the prerequisite “Rickroll”. This song has actually held up pretty well, despite overplay.
Predictions for next week: I really think they’re going to do 1983 next week, since March 19 is the only show for the next few weeks that wasn’t a repeat, plus we have yet to hear a regular weekly show from 1983 this year. So March 19, 1983 is my prediction for next week. My backup prediction is March 17, 1984.
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Post by mkarns on Mar 10, 2012 11:44:27 GMT -5
Listen, I don't have a problem with Hervard's critiques, but for the love of God, can you stop using the term "okies"? I think that word is a bunch of "crappies". So you say you DON'T have a problem with my critiques, yet you're saying for me to stop using the term okies. In other words, you DO have a problem with my critiques. I think you know what the solution is if you have a problem with my critiques (or the content of them, anyway). I've posted it here several times. Warning: I have used the word at least once on my critique of the 1988 show - for the first song featured. I have just one problem with your 1988 critique (other than differences of opinion): Alexander O'Neal & Cherrelle's 1986 hit was "Saturday Love".
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Post by doomsdaymachine on Mar 10, 2012 17:15:54 GMT -5
You want a good non hit by Don Henley thats more recent? Taking You Home from the Inside Job album is one of the best songs you never hear! (I love the older stuff by him as well, NY Minute, Sunset Grill, Boys Of Summer, Last Worthless Evening, End Of The Innocence.... AMAZING songwriter and musician! My two favorite Henleys are "Dirty Laundry" and "All She Wants To Do is Dance."
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Post by doomsdaymachine on Mar 10, 2012 17:17:52 GMT -5
I think we are using All Time Dance Floor Classic a little liberally. Disco Lucy would not qualify. I'd say only songs that still get played on dance floors would qualify. "Disco Lucy" is one of the worst pieces of crap ever to infest the top forty. Imagine doing a disservice to the composing talents of Desi Arnaz!
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Post by doomsdaymachine on Mar 10, 2012 17:19:32 GMT -5
I WANNA BE YOUR MAN - ROGER (30) - No big loss, as I do not like that song. Of course you don't. It's by a black artist who wasn't trying to sound white. Not to your tastes at all!
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Post by mkarns on Mar 10, 2012 17:39:02 GMT -5
I think we are using All Time Dance Floor Classic a little liberally. Disco Lucy would not qualify. I'd say only songs that still get played on dance floors would qualify. "Disco Lucy" is one of the worst pieces of crap ever to infest the top forty. Imagine doing a disservice to the composing talents of Desi Arnaz! Desi didn't write the "I Love Lucy" theme. Elliot Daniel and Harold Adamson did.
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Post by Josh Joel's Top 40 on Mar 10, 2012 22:30:47 GMT -5
I WANNA BE YOUR MAN - ROGER (30) - No big loss, as I do not like that song. Of course you don't. It's by a black artist who wasn't trying to sound white. Not to your tastes at all! C'mon now, you know you're wrong for that. I recall him mentioning that he doesn't like that *computerized* sound. When I was kid I wasn't fond of it either especially when I heard "More Bounce To The Ounce" by his group Zapp. Couldn't get with that, I tell ya..
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Post by dukelightning on Mar 10, 2012 22:40:45 GMT -5
I probably like more music by black artists on these AT40 shows than anyone on this forum and even I don't like that song. Yeah, the 'computerization' of it is the turnoff for me too.
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Post by blackbowl68 on Mar 11, 2012 8:09:19 GMT -5
dukedeb & Josh, I might agree with that theory, except I decided to jump back in this thread to Hervard's critique for Peter Frampton's "Do You Feel Like We Do," which utilizes the EXACT SAME VOCAL TECHNIQUE as Roger's "I Wanna Be Your Man." He called it a "great song." It makes you go....HMMM!!
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Post by dukelightning on Mar 11, 2012 8:15:00 GMT -5
Putting me in the same boat as hervard with regard to critiques is not a good idea. Just yesterday, I posted that I do not subscribe to his opinion that all Jody Watley songs sound the same.
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Post by michaelcasselman on Mar 11, 2012 10:15:04 GMT -5
I'm not sure what the point is... does this mean Peter Frampton is a white artist who tried to 'sound black'? The usage of talkbox itself may or may not be a dealmaker/breaker when you look at the overall composition of any given song. Effective usage in one song doesn't mean every song used it to the full advantage of the artist/song. Then there are factors like fleeting usage vs. overreliance on the talkbox as a gimmick throughout the song. Apples and oranges.
Then again, if someones trying to race-bait based on random music critiques, so be it.
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